Can We Stop Changing Rules Mid Overthrow

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Loody

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So the overthrow happened big guap y'know pretty cancer we arent talking about that

The new rule of you have to advert assist if you wanna help attack in a overthrow got changed mid overthrow so thats the problem

This rule has 0 Underlying context but that was changed mid overthrow.Shepard changed the rule to that if you call assist you get exiled after the overthrow ends and that if you get off after the overthrow is called you get pk'd.

can we not do that thanks atleast 3 people got pk'd for no reason.

P.S i was nuetral so you can call me biased all you want chief
 
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Lmao I was like 1 minute out of combat and switched lives and was Pk'ed? Very nice, not going to play the server until staff balances out the rules and I get my levels back. Last time I checked Exiles had 2 minutes to leave the planet. I guess not after an overthrow.
 
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Theseus

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That should've been changed after the OT. Causes to many issues if its in the middle and that will most definitely cause controversy.
 

Pdie

Member
The adverting assist being 2m is dumb. Bunch of people just lazing around and watching because they couldn't help is kinda dumb in a RP sense.
 

Caitlyn

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Dude last staff meeting u guys decided that if you don't advert assist before 2 minutes after OT is called you cant help.
 
What was very annoying was the door being shut instantaniously... If there is going to be Adverting assists for two minutes then people should be able to join the OT for two minutes.
 

Whiskey

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What was very annoying was the door being shut instantaniously... If there is going to be Adverting assists for two minutes then people should be able to join the OT for two minutes.
I agree with that. The spawn door should be closed after that 2 min is up
 

Spectre8105

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Here's my 2-cents as I was not at the staff meetings, the reason to add the advert assist rule was for staff to manage it easier, when I asked in @Chat today if people should say assist in @Chat instead, I greeted by "Empress' Advisor Shepard Deliciae (STEAM_0:0:20272775) (founder) (Shepard) said @ and so the defenders know who to attack" which IMO is stupid. I believe that a huge part of old overthrows is finding out who is helping who, they also tried to force half of the people overthrowing to change their names, which makes it even worse.

Another thing we have here is the amount of people slayed/denied due to this rule, many people were denied because they switched to their lives when OT was called, which was apparently too late (Time called:20:04:10 06/02/2019)AINQ CTC Darth Shadow Ryvir (STEAM_0:0:79805445) (diamond vip) (Darth Malgus) said /advert Overthrow
Prop Spawned - Gray Jedi Luna Rossay (STEAM_0:1:197195353) (senior moderator) (Luna) spawned a prop: models/props_c17/fence01a.mdl
Here's the good part - Time Prop was spawned 20:04:18 06/02/2019 As we see here, you had 8 seconds to switch to your life, change your name, build, and advert assist, i'm a god and all, but that's fucking hard.

Another thing was slaying during the OT - Jedi Master Dwayne Train (STEAM_0:1:97537193) (superadmin) (The Grinch Jedi Master Life) said ~slay maguk
Jedi Master Dwayne Train (STEAM_0:1:97537193) (superadmin) (The Grinch Jedi Master Life) said ~slay rhyos
Miles (STEAM_0:0:43458796) (founder) (Highlord Miles) said /pm Kezech They tried to say you couldn't assist in the overthrow because you didn't advert it. I found your advert (Not the direct line, but this line implies that Kezech was removed)
(I could not fine people who "Timed out" in the logs, but many people did which is why this next point is a thing)
Many people OTing crashed/timed out during the event, however 1 specific case stands out, which is Sauron, Sauron was brought back during the OT and (To my knowledge) inside the IS, 2 things, he was put inside a safe spot when he was outside with the rest of us, and why the fuck was he brought back when we lost people too. Even if some of the slays were justified (I believe there were more I didn't state) none of this would've happen if this "/advert assist" rule was not a thing, this rule ruins the flow of an OT, it not only denied people of BOTH sides to join, it fucked over people OTing even more

Also, Staff Noclipping were fucking cancer, The amount of times my charge went on a dude chilling over the korriban pit was in-fucking-sane, I thought it was under common sense to noclip and watch through walls so you arn't targetted.

The last note I wish to bring up was the aftermath of the OT, many were PK'd because they believed they could sign off while out-of-combat, apparently people were PK'd for logging off, I believe that the DC should've called the exile (which they did later) then they had to wait the timer, but many were instead PK'd before any exile was called. The shit talk after the OT was worse, not i'm not against taunting the other side, but as we see from "<21:10:12> "Tupac" was banned permanently from the server by "Shepard" (cya dog)" it got a bit out of hand. Now taunting each other IC and such is fine, however the Empress joined the OT channel, and was asked to leave, upon not leaving she was taunted, resulting in Shepard joining in an angry tone, after yelling to the entire channel Tupac threw an insult (Which was a bit racist, to quote "Go back to your nigger girlfriend) and got perma'd. Multiple things here, ALL of this would've been avoided in 1, Rules weren't changed in the middle of the OT (Might've won or accepted the loss). 2. Caitlyn listened and left the channel, or 3. Caitlyn did not receive the "Princess" act on the server, she has been the center of many problems on the server, even if it's not her intention, it's the problem (IMO intention is nothing, action is the real deal). Although I understand that Tupac's ban was a bit justified, it's not uncommon to be called a "nigger" "faggot" "chink" etc in the TS, maybe a couple day ban is fine, but perma is a bit much.
 

Kale

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Here's my 2-cents as I was not at the staff meetings, the reason to add the advert assist rule was for staff to manage it easier, when I asked in @Chat today if people should say assist in @Chat instead, I greeted by "Empress' Advisor Shepard Deliciae (STEAM_0:0:20272775) (founder) (Shepard) said @ and so the defenders know who to attack" which IMO is stupid. I believe that a huge part of old overthrows is finding out who is helping who, they also tried to force half of the people overthrowing to change their names, which makes it even worse.

Another thing we have here is the amount of people slayed/denied due to this rule, many people were denied because they switched to their lives when OT was called, which was apparently too late (Time called:20:04:10 06/02/2019)AINQ CTC Darth Shadow Ryvir (STEAM_0:0:79805445) (diamond vip) (Darth Malgus) said /advert Overthrow
Prop Spawned - Gray Jedi Luna Rossay (STEAM_0:1:197195353) (senior moderator) (Luna) spawned a prop: models/props_c17/fence01a.mdl
Here's the good part - Time Prop was spawned 20:04:18 06/02/2019 As we see here, you had 8 seconds to switch to your life, change your name, build, and advert assist, i'm a god and all, but that's fucking hard.

Another thing was slaying during the OT - Jedi Master Dwayne Train (STEAM_0:1:97537193) (superadmin) (The Grinch Jedi Master Life) said ~slay maguk
Jedi Master Dwayne Train (STEAM_0:1:97537193) (superadmin) (The Grinch Jedi Master Life) said ~slay rhyos
Miles (STEAM_0:0:43458796) (founder) (Highlord Miles) said /pm Kezech They tried to say you couldn't assist in the overthrow because you didn't advert it. I found your advert (Not the direct line, but this line implies that Kezech was removed)
(I could not fine people who "Timed out" in the logs, but many people did which is why this next point is a thing)
Many people OTing crashed/timed out during the event, however 1 specific case stands out, which is Sauron, Sauron was brought back during the OT and (To my knowledge) inside the IS, 2 things, he was put inside a safe spot when he was outside with the rest of us, and why the fuck was he brought back when we lost people too. Even if some of the slays were justified (I believe there were more I didn't state) none of this would've happen if this "/advert assist" rule was not a thing, this rule ruins the flow of an OT, it not only denied people of BOTH sides to join, it fucked over people OTing even more

Also, Staff Noclipping were fucking cancer, The amount of times my charge went on a dude chilling over the korriban pit was in-fucking-sane, I thought it was under common sense to noclip and watch through walls so you arn't targetted.

The last note I wish to bring up was the aftermath of the OT, many were PK'd because they believed they could sign off while out-of-combat, apparently people were PK'd for logging off, I believe that the DC should've called the exile (which they did later) then they had to wait the timer, but many were instead PK'd before any exile was called. The shit talk after the OT was worse, not i'm not against taunting the other side, but as we see from "<21:10:12> "Tupac" was banned permanently from the server by "Shepard" (cya dog)" it got a bit out of hand. Now taunting each other IC and such is fine, however the Empress joined the OT channel, and was asked to leave, upon not leaving she was taunted, resulting in Shepard joining in an angry tone, after yelling to the entire channel Tupac threw an insult (Which was a bit racist, to quote "Go back to your nigger girlfriend) and got perma'd. Multiple things here, ALL of this would've been avoided in 1, Rules weren't changed in the middle of the OT (Might've won or accepted the loss). 2. Caitlyn listened and left the channel, or 3. Caitlyn did not receive the "Princess" act on the server, she has been the center of many problems on the server, even if it's not her intention, it's the problem (IMO intention is nothing, action is the real deal). Although I understand that Tupac's ban was a bit justified, it's not uncommon to be called a "nigger" "faggot" "chink" etc in the TS, maybe a couple day ban is fine, but perma is a bit much.
Holy shit you just summed up everything that happened
 

Okeas

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The last note I wish to bring up was the aftermath of the OT, many were PK'd because they believed they could sign off while out-of-combat, apparently people were PK'd for logging off, I believe that the DC should've called the exile (which they did later) then they had to wait the timer, but many were instead PK'd before any exile was called. The shit talk after the OT was worse, not i'm not against taunting the other side, but as we see from "<21:10:12> "Tupac" was banned permanently from the server by "Shepard" (cya dog)" it got a bit out of hand. Now taunting each other IC and such is fine, however the Empress joined the OT channel, and was asked to leave, upon not leaving she was taunted, resulting in Shepard joining in an angry tone, after yelling to the entire channel Tupac threw an insult (Which was a bit racist, to quote "Go back to your nigger girlfriend) and got perma'd. Multiple things here, ALL of this would've been avoided in 1, Rules weren't changed in the middle of the OT (Might've won or accepted the loss). 2. Caitlyn listened and left the channel, or 3. Caitlyn did not receive the "Princess" act on the server, she has been the center of many problems on the server, even if it's not her intention, it's the problem (IMO intention is nothing, action is the real deal). Although I understand that Tupac's ban was a bit justified, it's not uncommon to be called a "nigger" "faggot" "chink" etc in the TS, maybe a couple day ban is fine, but perma is a bit much.
Remember when Caitlyn said the N word but it was justified and was ok to be said. Good times.
 
Here's my 2-cents as I was not at the staff meetings, the reason to add the advert assist rule was for staff to manage it easier, when I asked in @Chat today if people should say assist in @Chat instead, I greeted by "Empress' Advisor Shepard Deliciae (STEAM_0:0:20272775) (founder) (Shepard) said @ and so the defenders know who to attack" which IMO is stupid. I believe that a huge part of old overthrows is finding out who is helping who, they also tried to force half of the people overthrowing to change their names, which makes it even worse.

Another thing we have here is the amount of people slayed/denied due to this rule, many people were denied because they switched to their lives when OT was called, which was apparently too late (Time called:20:04:10 06/02/2019)AINQ CTC Darth Shadow Ryvir (STEAM_0:0:79805445) (diamond vip) (Darth Malgus) said /advert Overthrow
Prop Spawned - Gray Jedi Luna Rossay (STEAM_0:1:197195353) (senior moderator) (Luna) spawned a prop: models/props_c17/fence01a.mdl
Here's the good part - Time Prop was spawned 20:04:18 06/02/2019 As we see here, you had 8 seconds to switch to your life, change your name, build, and advert assist, i'm a god and all, but that's fucking hard.

Another thing was slaying during the OT - Jedi Master Dwayne Train (STEAM_0:1:97537193) (superadmin) (The Grinch Jedi Master Life) said ~slay maguk
Jedi Master Dwayne Train (STEAM_0:1:97537193) (superadmin) (The Grinch Jedi Master Life) said ~slay rhyos
Miles (STEAM_0:0:43458796) (founder) (Highlord Miles) said /pm Kezech They tried to say you couldn't assist in the overthrow because you didn't advert it. I found your advert (Not the direct line, but this line implies that Kezech was removed)
(I could not fine people who "Timed out" in the logs, but many people did which is why this next point is a thing)
Many people OTing crashed/timed out during the event, however 1 specific case stands out, which is Sauron, Sauron was brought back during the OT and (To my knowledge) inside the IS, 2 things, he was put inside a safe spot when he was outside with the rest of us, and why the fuck was he brought back when we lost people too. Even if some of the slays were justified (I believe there were more I didn't state) none of this would've happen if this "/advert assist" rule was not a thing, this rule ruins the flow of an OT, it not only denied people of BOTH sides to join, it fucked over people OTing even more

Also, Staff Noclipping were fucking cancer, The amount of times my charge went on a dude chilling over the korriban pit was in-fucking-sane, I thought it was under common sense to noclip and watch through walls so you arn't targetted.

The last note I wish to bring up was the aftermath of the OT, many were PK'd because they believed they could sign off while out-of-combat, apparently people were PK'd for logging off, I believe that the DC should've called the exile (which they did later) then they had to wait the timer, but many were instead PK'd before any exile was called. The shit talk after the OT was worse, not i'm not against taunting the other side, but as we see from "<21:10:12> "Tupac" was banned permanently from the server by "Shepard" (cya dog)" it got a bit out of hand. Now taunting each other IC and such is fine, however the Empress joined the OT channel, and was asked to leave, upon not leaving she was taunted, resulting in Shepard joining in an angry tone, after yelling to the entire channel Tupac threw an insult (Which was a bit racist, to quote "Go back to your nigger girlfriend) and got perma'd. Multiple things here, ALL of this would've been avoided in 1, Rules weren't changed in the middle of the OT (Might've won or accepted the loss). 2. Caitlyn listened and left the channel, or 3. Caitlyn did not receive the "Princess" act on the server, she has been the center of many problems on the server, even if it's not her intention, it's the problem (IMO intention is nothing, action is the real deal). Although I understand that Tupac's ban was a bit justified, it's not uncommon to be called a "nigger" "faggot" "chink" etc in the TS, maybe a couple day ban is fine, but perma is a bit much.
Was he banned in game too? Because if he was. That's kinda unfair, the dude who posted childporn in the ts only got banned from the ts and not in-game. While Tupac was banned in game.
 
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